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Author Topic: Winch Capacity  (Read 234 times)

Offline Ice Fishing Ham

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Winch Capacity
« on: June 06, 2011, 11:14:04 AM »
I was told that a winch rating is what it will pull up a 45 deg slope, not what it will lift vertically (The weight is on rollers to minimize friction).
If my math is correct that means a 2000 lb winch will only lift 1000 lbs vertically
Anyone have any comments on this?
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Offline Mike S

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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 11:43:51 AM »
You're right on the concept, but I cant commment on the math.
Other thing to take into consideration is whether the rating is done with a single line, or (and I forget the term here), doubled back to in essence have it pulled by 2 angles of the line and double the stated capacity.
I have a princess auto electric hoist in my garage. Twice the size of my atv winch and a fraction of the rated capacity, as it is designed to lift straight up.
Of course this is all based on new or good working order equipment.. frayed lines and rusty fairleads could mean less capacity and a dangerous situation.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2011, 11:27:56 AM by Mike S »
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Offline Ice Fishing Ham

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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 12:32:18 PM »
Correction on the math: it would be an angle of 30 deg from horizontal.
 
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Offline Grandpa Jim

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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 02:32:53 PM »
I was never too successful in Math but I think it might be logical that a 650 pound ATV just might find itself airborne if it was trying to vertically lift anything heavier than itself, regardless of the winch capacity. An ATV mounted winch is really designed to pull the machine on which it is fastened out of mud-holes, pressure cracks, slush fields or similar locations. Anyone who has tried to winch another ATV out of such predicaments has likely experienced that all you do is pull your own machine towards the stuck vehicle unless you somehow anchor or tie off the pulling ATV.
As an aside, a respected local ATV sales and service centre refuses to mount anything but WARN winches. I've seen the cheap winches from Canadian Tire and Princess Auto in action on Simcoe but usually not for very long. They simply don't stand up to serious use at all.
OOPS!! Just reread the original post and realized it's not necessarily about ATV winches. Mea Culpa.
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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 04:29:37 PM »
When I was buying a winch for my old jeep, it was recommend to me that you should buy twice the weight of your machine. That mud really has a sucking factor.
I am not sure but 6000lb pull is still 6000 when lifting.

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Offline Mike S

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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 05:09:10 PM »
I had to replace my Warn 2500 so I went with a Titan 3500 (no longer available). I'm happy with it so far and I went for the synthetic cable. Well worth the couple of extra bucks for it!!! It's much nicer to use, more like rope than a cable.
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Re: Winch Capacity
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 11:20:56 AM »
Ice - Great Subject.
 
This is quoting from a friend:
 
quoting... Winches rated for vertical lifting are quite a bit different than std almost Horizontal pull.
 
A boat winch might be rated to PULL 2000 pounds, but that doesn't mean the brake system is anywhere close to capable of actually HOLDING 2000 pounds. Its rated with the assumption that once you quit cranking, most of the load is going to also stop.end quote
 
So, assuming your lifting vertically - or as you mentioned 30 deg, you must make sure the winch(s) brake system is capable of holding the load. That info should be in the spec's - by law - Canadian Standards Ind.
 
quoting Dingbat (yep that's his name) -
The difference is in the service factors involved. Ratings run from 1 x the load to 4-8 times the load for lifts used for human transportation
 
The key is to make sure you purchase the correct winch (Vertical lift for example) with which to do a specific job (max #lbs) it was intended for.
 
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