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Author Topic: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species  (Read 513 times)

Offline KenT

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A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« on: September 11, 2011, 08:58:23 AM »
Hi guys,

I'm starting to run out of local species to catch  :-\ I may have to resort to more minnow fishing in the future to up my species count  :-[ ;D

But before I get there, I was wondering if anyone of you know of a good spot to catch White Crappie aside from Binbrook Conservation Area. That is really the only place I know...but the Black Crappie outnumbers the White Crappies 10 to 1 there.  :(

Also, I've been trying to other redhorse species but can't seem to find any other redhorse. All I can catch are shorthead and golden redhorse. I'm hoping to catch greater redhorse, river redhorse, black redhorse, silver redhorse and spotted redhorse. I know Forks of the Thames is a spawning area for many if not all of these redhorse species. Maybe DokDok can chime in here. I'd love to at least catch some great redhorse. I know the other redhorse species are quite low in numbers and rare.

Thanks guys!

Ken

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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 12:36:08 PM »
 
Hey Ken, your Pic collection was just fantastic. I've sent it on to my grandaughter whose just as avid as you.
 
Redhorse Species - I've caught them just North of Forest Ontario in the feeder creeks off Lake Huron. Actually when we were draging the creeks for baitfish years ago we pick up some great looking Redhorse. Concentration should be between Forest and Grand Bend. Be wary of the snapping turtles - they are in there - and they bite if your hand is in the water. Best of Luck!
 
Can't help with the white crappie - maybe someone else will chime in - dokdok where are you....lol
 
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Offline KenT

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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 07:32:52 PM »
Thanks bobbyb! I really love fishing more than just catching fish...but studying them and appreciating each unique species. I'm sure your granddaughter gets it too :)

BTW, is she looking for a boyfriend? I need a girlfriend who loves fish as much as I do.

Nah...just kidding  ;D ;D ;D ;D Just yanking on chains  ;D ;D ;D

Forest, Ontario is a little far for me...but I'll definitely give that a thought if I can't find them closer to home. I live in Toronto so that's at least 3 hours drive. But if push comes to shove, I'll do the drive. If I need more information later, you'll definitely hear from me  ;D

Thanks again!

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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 09:28:53 PM »

Ken, there are typically 2 types of suckers that are common to the upper thames (London, Ontario)... unfortunately the species that you have listed are not commonly found in this region. I don't usually catch too many redhorses ... most recent was about a week ago (shorthead redhorse).


This fish was caught in the springbank dam area of the thames river in London.


Here's a study that was performed for the area and I would expect the same conditions would apply in dam areas stretching along the upper thames reaching from Woodstock to Chatham, Ontario...


March 2010 Migration Study -
Migration phases: An increase in the mean number of passes and the mean number of days spent at the dam for white suckers (Catostomus commersonii) and shorthead redhorse (Moxostoma macrolepidotum) indicate that these two species now spend more days at the dam than they did in the baseline year.
Visual observations demonstrate that this may be because these two benthivorous (bottom feeding) species now spend time at the dam consuming algae and invertebrates off of the new gates.
Ref file: http://www.clear.london.ca/pdf/Springbank_Dam_March11.pdf


As far as white crappie go ... I personally haven't fished for these in years. There have been reports of crappie in local ponds
(ie. Pondmills pond in London).
I've also heard of a place just outside of Aylmer, Ontario that is quite popular...
Springwater Conservation Area near Aylmer routinely produce big bass for anglers with the patience to learn where the fish are. The Springwater pond, in particular, produced a Canadian live-release record largemouth bass. Small ponds such as these are also packed with panfish such as bluegill, pumpkinseed, and crappie.
Ref: file: http://www.ruralroutes.com/orr_city_page.cfm?city=Springfield


Good luck with your search Ken and thanks for uploading the pics .... droolin' !!
~dokdok


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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 04:09:31 PM »
Maybe DokDok can chime in here. I'd love to at least catch some great redhorse. I know the other redhorse species are quite low in numbers and rare.


Hi Ken, I went back over some of my fishing history from the last 2 or 3 years. Just thought I'd let you know that you are right about the fork of the  thames region. We've caught more (sucker) species there this time of year ... my history indicates that now until the end of September is prime time.

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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 11:32:00 PM »
Thanks DokDok! This year is a little tough for me to get out to London...but I'll keep that in mind for next year.

I also know that they spawn in May/June so maybe that's a good time to fish for them too?

Ken

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Re: A little help with White Crappie and Redhorse Species
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 05:18:06 PM »
OK Ken ... Prefer the fall time thou,, I try to avoid areas during the spawning cycle.

 

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